The person entered Grosvenor Road, Lindfield from the Pacific Highway. The intersection is controlled by traffic lights. As you enter Grosvenor Road there's a school zone and speed signs about 34 metres to alert you of the 40 km/h speed limit during school times. The may also be a 40 km/h limit and school zone markings on the road.
Driving further down Grosvenor Road the first time you know the speed limit is when you see at around 362 metres from the intersection and End School Zone with the speed limit of 50 km/h. That's a very long distance and a long way before knowing what the speed limit of the street is.
From the other end of Grosvenor Road you enter via a roundabout at Lady Game Drive. As you head north along Lady Game Drive you approach the roundabout and continue straight through on Lady Game Drive or exit the second exit to Grosvenor Road. Both roads look very similar and both don't look like urban roads. In effect there's little reason for anyone to think Grosvenor Road, the second exit has a lower speed limit. There is no speed limit sign when coming from Lady Game Drive until you reach the school zone speed sign. There is no end school zone speed limit sign when driving west to east. This is most likely due to the short distance to the Pacific Highway.
The problem for this driver was they entered Grosvenor Road off the Pacific Highway and most likely thought the speed limit was 60 km/h. A mobile speed camera was located before they reached the End School Zone sign with the 50 km/h. There's a possibility the driver was booked depending on which side of the road the mobile speed camera was located.
It does seem a bit odd that Eaton Road, the road south of Grosvenor Road that also turns off the Pacific Highway, but is a much smaller road with no traffic lights is clearly marked on the road with both 50 km/h for the road's normal speed limit and 40 km/h for the school zone limit, yet Grosvenor Road has no such marking. Westbourne road the next street south is small and have no speed information, but the next road south, Bayswater Road, which is bigger, does have a 50 km/h area speed limit sign.
Given it's felt there's a need for a mobile speed camera, it stands to reason the speed limit signage should be improved to assist people to better know the correct speed limit.
Now I also mentioned what do Grosvenor Road in Lindfield and Batesford Road in Malvern East and Chadstone have in common, and to me it is that they are both poorly signed when it comes to speed limits.
If we used the logic that smaller urban roads have a default speed limit of 50 km/h, if you were to drive into Batesford Road from Waverley Road in Malvern East, or heading east in Batesford Road from Warrigal Road, there's no speed limit signs. The only sign is on the southern side of Batesford Road in Malvern East near the MacDonald's. The sign is a 60 km/h sign. Given Batesford Road crosses Warrigal Road and one of the highest revenue red light camera/speed camera locations in Victoria, you'd think the signage should be good in the area.
Whilst taking dashcam videos of red light cameras and speed cameras one problem I was often faced with was not knowing the speed of the road. So many areas around Melbourne are very poorly sign posted. When you come out of a side street onto a major road it can be some time until you see a speed limit sign. There's many spots around Melbourne where this can lead people to speed without realising and often those spots are also good spots for mobile speed cameras. Better signage would help everyone. Signs closer together means we don't have to drive blindly or resort to technology to let us know what the speed limit is.
Kelvin Eldridge
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